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		<title>Start-Up Challenge</title>
		<link>http://halls.lug-nut.com/2007/09/12/start-up-challenge/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 03:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jayce</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazon Web services begins a Start-Up challenge
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=377634011">The Amazon Start-Up Challenge</a> has begun.&nbsp; Got an idea you want to try out? Now&#8217;s your chance to play with it on the AWS cluster.&nbsp; Try using their services to get your system started and you could win a bit of money.</p>
<p>This is pretty cool, I&#8217;ve been starting to play a little with the EC2 + S3 combination, and interested in the other fun toys like FPS and SQS.&nbsp; Now, how should I use it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Recruiters</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 06:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jayce</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My opinion on what recruiters need to do, in reference to Rob Merrill's upcoming PLUG presentation
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this post serves two purposes.&nbsp; One is to remind folks that tonight (Wednesday the 8th of September) is the <a href="http://www.plug.org/node/86">Plug meeting, Mid-Career Development</a>.&nbsp; Robert Merril, local recruiter for SOS Technical will be presenting on various tips and tricks for making yourself be a desired asset.</p>
<p>What he is also pushing, is for feedback on why geeks like me tend to hate recruiters, and what can be fixed.&nbsp; So here goes some of my notes.</p>
<p>The average recruiter to me seems like most used car salesmen.&nbsp; They are willing to say, or do, anything to meet what they want.&nbsp; What&#8217;s worse than the average car salesman is that they are negotiating with two separate parties.&nbsp; Most talks with recruiters to me seem to be cold contacts, with stories that I can see through in moments, and leave me feeling like I need to seek out a public clinic.&nbsp; There are exceptions of course, and I&#8217;d like to point out some of the things that I feel stand out.</p>
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A good example of a recruiter is one I know that works for<br />
Ticketmaster.&nbsp; Now at Ticketmaster, they make heavy use of tools that<br />
rank pretty high on my skill list.&nbsp; I know this because I see them<br />
often following email lists for those technologies, participating as<br />
they may.&nbsp; They work with the groups in question, even when not<br />
actively hiring, just because they have an interest.&nbsp; They attend<br />
events that I also have an interest in, and pay attention there.&nbsp; In<br />
Ticketmaster&#8217;s case, I&#8217;ve seen them repeatedly at OSCON.&nbsp; At the event,<br />
they have a way to easily filter their prospects, that is very<br />
applicable to the field (they have a complex perl obfuscation, and if<br />
you solve it and bring the answer to them, you get something).&nbsp; Their<br />
candidates come to them because of an interesting gimmick, and get<br />
something out of it, even if they aren&#8217;t currently looking for a job.&nbsp;<br />
They make their case quickly, while obviously trying to &#8220;sell&#8221; their<br />
job, they make sure to answer <b>directly</b> and <b>honestly</b>, and<br />
if you are uninterested, they will still talk to you on a personal<br />
level and make sure they know you.&nbsp; In my case, I haven&#8217;t followed up<br />
for a few reasons, the most important is that they are based out of<br />
West LA, and don&#8217;t do telecommuting.&nbsp; And yet having told them that a<br />
few years ago, I was greeted at OSCON this year with a friendly smile,<br />
asked if I had solved the new obfuscation puzzle, and asked if I was<br />
interested in moving yet.&nbsp; Yes, a large conference and they remembered<br />
me.&nbsp; They didn&#8217;t have my name memorized, I have never given my full<br />
resume, but they remembered enough about me.&nbsp; They weren&#8217;t pushy, and I<br />
was impressed with them.</p>
<p>That brings up an important part of my idea of what a recruiter should<br />
be.&nbsp; Yes they are selling a person, and their skills.&nbsp; But Geeks are<br />
tired of shucksters who try to move people as if a number of units per<br />
day. Instead the recruiter should become a friend of their candidates,<br />
it should be a long process where the recruiter is familiar with a<br />
large catalog of people, ready to pull out the right tool for the right<br />
job.</p>
<p>And yes, Geeks in general are very focused on the right tool concept.&nbsp;<br />
*nix type folks even more than others. The concept of do one thing, and<br />
do it well is ingrained into us, and we hone our skills to do specific<br />
types of work very well.&nbsp; We despise the lousy job ads, and recruiters<br />
that really don&#8217;t know what a job is, which is only compounded&nbsp; with<br />
not knowing <b>me</b> and it&#8217;s a geeks idea of a disaster.</p>
<p>You need to know what those bullet points on my resume really are. What<br />
do they mean to me, and how good I really am.&nbsp; If you try pitching me a<br />
Windows job, you should know <i>why</i> I&#8217;m not only uninterested, but that I will be thinking much less of your skills.</p>
<p>I want a recruiter who attends my Lug, or Sig meetings.&nbsp; Who can tell me that the job presented to me will be developing in TTK on Ubuntu boxes, even if he&#8217;s not really familiar with what those are.&nbsp; The recruiter doesn&#8217;t have to know how to use every Perl Templating kit out there, they just need to think to ask about those things from the prospective employer.&nbsp; The familiarity with the group will cause the recruiter to find out the nuances of a job that will really get a Geeks attention.&nbsp; Maybe knowing that a job uses Catalyst will allow me to provide you more knowledge of my skills that could help both me and the recruiter make a little more money because I can express more interest, or provide a better resume listing based on my skills.</p>
<p>Basically, recruiting should be done through people familiar with the community.&nbsp; People with a long-term relationship who can help their friends out with what they really need.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t want a door-to-door salesman with jobs, I want my good friend that knows of a really nice opening with my name on it.&nbsp; I am <b>not</b> a square peg in a round hole.</p>
<p>You can also always do your part in cleaning up the horror that is business job postings.&nbsp; Geeks will always tirade against a bad job posting (just view the PLUG archives).&nbsp; We commonly point out what is always wrong with job postings, but it never changes.&nbsp; The recruiter can help in this process.&nbsp; If you see a lousy posting, don&#8217;t just pass it on, get the real deal. Familiarity with the groups will help you ask the right questions, to find out what the business really wants.&nbsp; If you aren&#8217;t sure, just post it to Plug with the header &#8220;Please rip apart, so I can ask them the right questions&#8221;.&nbsp; Being a part of the community, you&#8217;ll be able to ask people like me to help you find the questions.&nbsp; Even if I have no interest in a job at the moment, having me help point out questions lets you know me better.&nbsp; Just don&#8217;t repeat the same question too much <img src='http://halls.lug-nut.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh, and good food and swag are always nice <img src='http://halls.lug-nut.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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